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[Mr. TOP SECRET]

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7mG7skWzkU" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7mG7skWzkU</a>

[lashmar]

good video. I agree that "when people fear the government there is tyranny and when the government fears it's people there is liberty". I agree with that 100%.

[Mr. TOP SECRET]

I love the fact that our founding fathers gave us liberty and freedom but researchers like Ralph Epperson who I interviewed and others believe that our founding fathers had a secret destiny for America. After all, most of the signers of the Declaration of Independence were free masons.

[Regnad]

Very good point T.S. I had forgot about that.........

[Mr. TOP SECRET]

It makes you think

[Scorpiusmaximus]

Seems that all my life compulsion and coersion have been the favored tools of government.  no liberty there....

[Mr. TOP SECRET]

I couldn't say it any better. Right on Scorpius!

[Scorpiusmaximus]

I like how I have always heard that It could be worse if I lived elsewhere like somewhere communist country or the middle east or Africa or basically anywhere else.  I think that's a load of crap.  Just because people's lives are shit in other places doesn't mean we should be satisfied with the way things are here because we are better off than they are or things could always be worse or even because we should just be thankful for what we have and shut up.  We could always be doing better ourselves. My opinion is so long as people are able to stay comfortable they aren't going to give a shit about much else outside their personal bubble even if it means giving up liberty.

[Day_Tripper]

I like how I have always heard that It could be worse if I lived elsewhere like somewhere communist country

If you live in the US you do live in a communist country.

Compare the Bill of Rights, which are supposed to be followed, to the 10 planks of the communist manifesto.  Then decide which document this country is following.

Link to the Bill of God given Rights: http://billofrights.org/

Link to the 10 planks of the commie manifesto: http://www.libertyzone.com/Communist-Manifesto-Planks.html

McCarthy was right and Americans lost the cold war.

[lashmar]

My opinion is so long as people are able to stay comfortable they aren't going to give a shit about much else outside their personal bubble even if it means giving up liberty.

I agree. People are so fucking self-centered all the time they don't give a shit about anything so long as they have a job and they can put food on the table. Hell I can do that here in the EU but I want to get out because I understand that they're, among other things, Illegal; fine I can put food on the table alright BUT there's no way I'm going to give up my rights and the rights of 500 million other people without a fight.