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[earthman]

I have been following a breaking story coming from Open Minds Forum and Reality Uncoverd. An investagation into what has been called "source A" has been exposed as a Hoax. The UN meeting on UFO's was a Hoax. The investagation is still ongoing but it doesnt look good for Clay And Shawn Pickering. RU done an investgation into source A and the UN meetings. Here is most of the investagation..  http://www.realityuncovered.net/blog/2010/05/ufology-exopolitics-special-source-a-exposed/
It looks like Salla of Exopolitics is somehow involved too. This is breaking news and more is coming.

earthman

[lashmar]

Interesting read, nice find Dave. Not that I've followed it at all but it seems that the Pickerings have been exposed to be liers.

[lashmar]

Got an update for us Eman?

[earthman]

Well, the whole UN meeting story has been running at Open Minds Forum since Feb 2008. It all started when Clay and Shawn Pickering from NY was aproched by a Naval officer whom stated he was present at a meeting at the UN about UFO's. Here is the first post that was made about this meeting.

Source Reveals Secret UFO Meeting at U.N.
by Michael E. Salla, Ph.D

February 12, 2008

Source Reveals Secret UFO Meeting at U.N.


I received the following email from two trusted colleagues (Clay and Shawn Pickering) regarding a reliable source informing them that a secret meeting occurred yesterday morning (Feb 12) at the New York office of the United Nations concerning the recent spate of UFO sightings. It appears that a number of nation states are concerned about the impact of increased UFO sightings and wish to be briefed about what is happening.

Their source, who currently works in the diplomatic corps, had to travel for an early
morning off the record meeting at the UN. Their source revealed that a secret UFO working group exists that is authorizing the release of such information to the public, in an effort to acclimate others to what is about to unfold.

A date of 2013 was given as the time for official disclosure and/or when extraterrestrials show up in an unambiguous way. In the interim there will be acclimation related releases of information. Importantly, the source revealed that the events leading up to official disclosure will involve more ethically oriented extraterrestrials, and they will not pose a military threat to the world.

The information below may be related to the recent debate in the Japanese parliament and statements by the Defense Minister over how Japan would respond to extraterrestrials appearing over Japanese airspace that display peaceful intent. It appears nation states are moving forward in developing public policy on how to respond to extraterrestrials showing up. So if the information below is accurate, then it is likely that we will see more examples of governments making official statements concerning how they would respond to extraterrestrials that show up over their airspace. It is likely that parliamentarians around the world will start receiving briefings to help them develop public policy concerning extraterrestrial life.

Such briefings
will probably extend to prominent media sources who will give more coverage to UFO sightings in popular media outlets such as Larry King Live.
Increased media reports will first likely lead to disclosures of secret antigravity technologies that have been withheld for over 50 years, as a prelude to official disclsoure of extraterresrial life. The source's reference to suicides is probably related to those who will learn that much of what they have learned and believed over a lifetime was a lie. The 1961 Brookings Report referred to scientists as being most vulnerable to the disclosure of extraterrestrial life since it will make redundant many of the cherished scientific theories and models held by this community.

Overall, it appears that a countdown is underway to official disclosure around 2013, and that nation states and the UN are being briefed. The acclimation process will accelerate over the next five years as UFO sightings increase around the globe forcing governments to make public policy statements on UFOs and extraterrestrial life.

Now, after 2 years, and many undates, some folks from the website Reality Uncoverd, uncoverd who source  A is and has blown the lid off of this whole story. The thread covering this at OMF is now a battle ground. The Pickerings are silent as many are now. I have had pm's with the Pickerings and do believe them. They are keeping quiet for now they said and i dont blame them. This is a hard story to follow at the moment. Many that have been a part of this are being bashed at OMF and are not speaking. One who  has been a part of this is Cyrellys. I have known her for years now from the day of he old ufodbase. She was a member there. Some there are saying that she is not a she and is a brother of the pickerings. What a joke. They are grabing at straws just to bash the whole story of the UN meeting. Month's after the whole meeting story broke, Dick Criswell, helping me for The UFO Discovery Project, confirmed that the meeting DID take place as reported.

I don't know where this is leading yet but i will try to update as i find out information. Thanks all.


earthman

[earthman]

After the outing of sourse A, Dr. Michael Salla, Of exopolitics.org posted this article at his site. Hope you don't mind Dr. Salla.

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Richard Theilmann, (Lt Commander) at New York Naval CommanderyOn May 20, an article was published outing the original source leaking information about secret UFO discussions at the United Nations that began on February 12, 2008. The source in question showed this writer and up to six other researchers credentials revealing his identity as Richard Theilmann, Lieutenant Commander in the US Navy.  The military ID badge he showed me in October 2008 was valid for a three year period and had a bar code for scanning purposes. He also showed a service album showing many photos of his career in different military commands, including his name on a fighter plane on an aircraft carrier. Theilmann (aka Source A) explained that he was on reserve duty and would be activated for different covert missions – including a stint at the United Nations after he was reactivated in 2005 up to 2008. I was also aware of a meeting Theilmann had with Dr Bruce Maccabee at the Naval Surface Warfare Center in April 2008 when he arrived at Maccabee’s laboratory unescorted. He did so by showing his military ID badge which was scanned and he was given the go ahead to bypass normal base security procedures for visitors. This led to Maccabee concluding that Theilman had sufficiently high security clearances and valid credentials in order to visit him unescorted. All this was used to support Theilmann’s claims that he was present at a secret set of UN discussions on UFOs.

In the period immediately after Theilmann’s February 2008 leak, other sources came forward to disclose the existence of secret discussions at the UN. The most important was a French UFO researcher, Gilles Lorant, who claims to have participated in closed door discussions on February 13-14. He described a new openness policy had been adopted by up to 28 nations, and this would begin in 2009 provided two conditions were met. One was that UFOs would continue to appear in large numbers, and that liberal democratic societies would not be destabilized by official openness on the UFO issue. Lorant’s testimony was supported by other sources including well known UFO researcher Dr Stephen Greer who knew of the French interest in disclosing the truth about extraterrestrial life.

A number of sources revealed that Lorant worked closely with French military intelligence. He quickly became the first major casualty of the UN UFO story when it was found that he had overstated his professional credentials. Lorant was quickly discredited in France but his story nevertheless was now in the public realm. For many, this was how plausible deniability worked in the covert world of UFO programs. The discrediting of Lorant was an example of how when the cover of covert operative is blown, they are discredited, disappear and are reassigned. Based on the outing of Source A as Richard Theilmann, the public may soon witness a repeat of the public discrediting of another covert operative who disclosed that the UN began having secret discussions on UFOs in 2008. More disturbingly, Theilmann is being threatened with arrest if he doesn’t disavow his earlier revelations about secret UN UFO discussions.

Today (May 24), I had a telephone conversation with Richard Theilmann about how he would respond to the outing of him by Stephen Broadbent, and the attempt to discredit him as a hoax. Theilmann explained that he was being coerced, and that as we were speaking, his military records were being expunged in case a failsafe contingency was activated to protect more senior Navy officials involved in the sanctioned leaking of the UN UFO discussions. The failsafe, if activated, would lead to him being arrested for impersonating a military officer and his public discrediting by the mainstream media. It had earlier been explained to me that the failsafe would lead to him serving a short stint in prison before being released, and reassigned for another covert mission involving extraterrestrial life. ‘Coincidentally’ a case of an ex-Navy Commander impersonating a military officer appeared on May 2. Was this rare occurrence just a ‘coincidence’, a veiled ‘warning’ to Theilmann, and/or was the public was being conditioned to accept a failsafe contingency in case Theilmann was outed? Another question worth asking is whether Broadbent and his investigatory team was being assisted in their outing of Theilman by opponents of the Navy’s effort to disclose the existence of UFOs?

In another ‘coincidence’ it was announced one day later on May 21 that Dennis Blair, a former four star Navy Admiral, was forced to resign as Director of National Intelligence. Blair was someone with the background experiences on UFOs that would be open to supporting a covert Navy effort to disclose the existence of UFOs and extraterrestrial life, and briefing President Obama.  Among the stated factors that went against Blair was that he wanted to promote closer intelligence ties between the U.S. and France.  That’s another curious ‘coincidence’ given the role of Lorant (and French military intelligence) in disclosing the existence of UN UFO discussions back in February 2008. Theilmann supported my suspicion of a link, and stated in our conversation that Blair’s resignation was part of a ‘pushback’ against the Navy. If a pushback is indeed occurring, it very likely is being orchestrated by the same forces that were earlier involved in silencing UN diplomats from discussing the secret UFO discussions. Along with Theilmann, two other sources confirmed that such coercion was being used against diplomats. One source was a serving European Ambassador who requested anonymity in revealing that such coercion was indeed happening.

In order to avoid the activation of the failsafe mechanism whereby his military records would be expunged, Theilmann explained to me that in a forthcoming telephone conversation he would have with Broadbent, tentatively arranged for May 25, he would discredit himself by saying that the UN UFO story was something he had fabricated based on events that occurred while he was at the United Nations in February 2008. His strategy was that by telling Broadbent that he made most of it up, based on conversations he had overheard, that further investigations by Broadbent et al would end. Theilmann hoped that the UN UFO issue would die away, and the failsafe would not be activated. Basically, I was being told that Theilmann was prepared to backtrack and lie to Broadbent about the reality of the UFO discussions at the UN in order to avert the failsafe mechanism. Theilmann’s intent was to protect his superiors in the covert world, the regular Navy and his own public humiliation if he was arrested for impersonating an officer.

As a researcher, I am committed to finding the truth about extraterrestrial life, and exposing official government/military/corporate policies to cover up its existence. I cannot therefore simply stand by and watch as Theilmann was point blank going to lie about his true role in leaking information about secret UFO discussions at the UN.  Furthermore, I do not accept the coercion that is currently being used against Theilmann to make him contemplate discrediting himself in order to avert an even more severe failsafe mechanism from coming into play. Something similar had already happened with, Gilles Lorant, the other major primary source revealing the existence of the UN UFO talks. The coercion used against covert operatives may be accepted by them as part of the standard MO of life with high security clearances. As a member of the general public, I am not obliged to play along especially when it comes to distorting the truth and preventing the public from learning more about what the UN has been secretly doing on the UFO/extraterrestrial issue.

Based on conversations subsequent to the outing of Richard Theilmann, nothing has deterred me from the conclusion that the secret UN discussions on UFOs occurred as Theilman, Lorant and other sources have described all along. Theilman’s visit to the Naval Surface Warfare Center in April 2008 to meet with Dr Maccabee reveals that he did have a current military ID badge and security clearances, as he showed to me and other researchers. The documents witnessed supported Theilman’s claim that he had been reactivated from reserve status. Theilmann’s advance warning to me that he is about to admit to deceiving the Pickering brothers, who first told me about the UN UFO discussions, is itself a lie where he will directly seek to discredit himself.

I understand Theilmann’s predicament given the failsafe contingency he claims is hanging over his head that entails arrest and publicly discrediting him for impersonating an officer. The existence of such failsafe mechanisms is certainly one of the more inconvenient aspects of working in the covert world. Perhaps this article may prevent such a mechanism from being activated, and even dissuade him from disavowing his earlier stated positions as relayed by a number of intermediaries including this writer. I fervently hope so. His testimony is important and was a key part of an unfolding puzzle of official UN interest in UFOs and extraterrestrial life. Nevertheless, Theilmann has always been one among a number of sources revealing the existence of secret UFO discussions at the UN. The policy implications that such meetings have had at an international level are important to investigate more closely. That is especially so if there is a current pushback against UFO/extraterrestrial disclosure going forward, and primary sources are being silenced and/or threatened with arrest if they don’t disavow their testimonies.

earthman

[earthman]

And now this from Kevin Smith, of The Kevin Smith Show. Click the link and read this,..

http://www.kevinsmithshow.com/articles/pickering_story.htm

earthman

[lashmar]

Top stuff dude, got any more? Do you think the Pickering are telling the truth then E-man?

[earthman]

Well, time will tell but it looks like Source A is a hoax. Though i'm not convinced yet, the FBI and who knows who else is looking into this. Reality Uncoverd contacted the FBI and started an investagation. His ex and ex sister in law have stated that he was never in the NAVY?? But yet there is photo's of him in uniform. There calling it Stolen Valor and he had gained access to a military base, per Bruce Maccabee.

This story broke in Feb 2008 and has been running ever since. Did the UN meeting really happen? Well, in Aug of 08 i wonderd if this really happened. Through Dick Criswell, he had one of his military contacts ask some questions to the Powers in charge about our project and if the UN meeting really happened. After a few weeks we got our answer. The Meeting did happen. That is why i'm not convinced that this is a hoax. We are waiting on the FBI investagation.

earthman